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Ryan Divish has been with Tacoma News Tribune since 2006, covering the Tacoma Rainiers and high school sports. Divish played baseball at Dickinson State University and also earned a journalism degree from the University of Montana.
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    Thursday, September 25th, 2008
    Posted by Ryan Divish @ 07:33:38 pm

    I almost forgot to do the game thoughts. I was busy staring off into space and pondering what it would be like to be covering a winning team, or a team that didn't want to beat up it's best player. Anyway I digress.

    A few quick notes... The Gar is here promoting his new foundation. And also Kaz Sasaki, the Daimajin, is here doing some commentating for Japanese television.

    So let's get to some thoughts...

    Top of first
    Three ground balls to shortstop, three clean plays by Yuni.

    Bottom of first
    Ichiro gets a nice ovation from the fans and then promptly delivers a single to left for his 1,800th hit in the big leagues. With that hit he became the fastest player in baseball history to reach 1,800 hits, for any player starting their career after 1954. Ichiro needed just 1,277 games to do it. Next on the list is Wade Boggs who accomplished the feat in 1,352 games.

    BETANCOURT WALKED, BETANCOURT WALKED. I DON'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW. That gives Yuni 16 walks on the season. He might get 20 on the season, at one point, if you told me that, I would have called you a bleeping idiot.

    Raul singles home Ichiro. And then Wlad Balentien delivers a double down the line to score a run. Mariners lead 2-0.

    Top of second
    Cesar Jimenez gets himself into a spot of trouble walking the first two guys he faced. And even though the Angels have clinched a playoff spot and the AL West title, Manager Mike Scioscia still has Howie Kendrick bunt the runners over. It later results in a sac fly to cetner from Mike Napoli. Mariners 2-1.

    Bottom of second
    A lead-off double from Tuiasosopo and a single from Luis Valbuena goes wasted as Ichiro is rung up on a questionable call and Betancourt hits into a 4-6-3 DP.

    OK it's now the bottom of the sixth, and my computer crashed once, and then started running slower than a footrace between John Olerud and Carlos Silva.

    I have no explanation for it. It seems that nothing will make it quite better.

    hmm... so what happened?

    The Mariners lost the 2-1 lead when who else but Wlad Guerrero hit a two-run homer to right. Wlad Balentien tried to make a leaping grab and the ball bounced off his glove over the wall for homer. At first it looked like it might be a double, but then it was ruled a homer, no replay was used on the play.

    The lead just moved to 4-2 as Torii Hunter doubled to score another run in the top of the seventh.

    We head to the bottom of the seventh.
    Ichiro with a single to lead-off the inning and then Yuni delivers a two-run homer on a 2-0 pitch to left-center off of Jose Arrendando. You see Yuni, it's good to hit with a 2-0 count. Raul walks but the rally ends there.

    Top of eighth
    Roy Corcoran gives up a single but everybody's favorite Southern Fried gentleman gets out of the inning.

    Bottom of eight
    Tui draws a two-out walk. You can slowly see him starting to adjust at this level. He'll still be at Triple A next year to start the season, but this time up here will have paid dividends. But after a fighting off a few pitches, Valbuena pops up to end the inning.

    Top of nine
    Vlad, jackshot, game winner?

    Bottom of nine
    yep

    Categories: Game Updates
    Posted by Ryan Divish @ 05:41:47 pm

    Ok, well, our competitor had a story in today's paper about some of the Mariners not being too fond of Ichiro Suzuki. In the story, an anonymous clubhouse source had a few quotes that were pretty eye-opening.

    “I just can’t believe the number of guys who really dislike him,” said one clubhouse insider. “It got to a point early on when I thought they were going to get together and go after him.”

    The coaching staff and then-manager John McLaren intervened when one player was overheard talking — in reference to Ichiro — about wanting to “knock him out.” A team meeting was called to clear the air.

    Ok, so obviously that was the topic that manager Jim Riggleman addressed in his pregame meeting with the media. Riggleman was quite candid and at time quite irritated about having to discuss such a topic. I'll add my own thoughts on this later.
    Here's some of the highlights.

    When you aren’t winning many games these type of games surface when a ball club loses a lot of games, you’re going to have some griping and fingerpointing and stuff like that.

    But I can honestly tell you I don’t ever remember any time when I was coaching or managing here that anybody was at the point where somebody was going to go after somebody. I don’t think it got to that point.

    A lot of those people who say those things need to look in the mirror about their own performances rather than putting it on somebody else but that comes with a losing a lot of games. You get a lot of negativity. The only way to fix that is not lose a lot of games.

    When asked if some of the animosity was because Ichiro was the team's perceived superstar, Riggleman said this:

    "It probably is. But you know everybody has some deficiencies starting at the top. We all have some deficiencies. I feel like I prepare myself as much as you can prepare for a ball game, but my preparation probably pales in comparison to Ichiro’s preparation.

    I think you’ll find that if everybody prepared as hard and worked as hard as Ichiro and Ibanez we probably wouldn’t have lost so many games."

    Why would someone say stuff like this?

    Pettiness, seventh-grade mentality, just pettiness of whatever jealousy, pointing fingers, deflecting responsibility, lack of accountability, just a lack of a character.

    These things happen when you’re losing; you’re not seeing that happen with winning teams now. But those winning teams go out and lose a couple games and you’ll see it.

    And as the questions continued about leadership and other things, never really deviating from the overall subject, Riggleman grew more and more agitated about being stuck in this situation.

    Your character is tested in the bad times, not good times. I feel like for the most our guys have held up very well, but there are examples of a lack of character when people take shots at each in the paper.

    You get a feeling for who those people are and you try to eliminate those people

    Here's my favorite ...

    Rats are the first one of the ship. When the ship is sinking the rats are the first ones off. They’re the ones scavenging everything on the ship when it’s floating good and going good, but when it’s sinking the rats are the first ones to abandon the ship.

    Talk is cheap. We can talk all about. We can talk and talk and talk about stuff like that. You can go on and on about somebody pointing fingers or whether somebody dind’t lead, all those things, but bottom line is we didn’t pitch good enough and we didn’t hit good enough. Those things supercede everything."

    Finally, Riggleman, who knows that some of the pitchers have done some of the petty sniping in the press and behind closed doors, had something for them as well.

    Out of 14 teams, we’re 11th in pitching. And I’ll guarantee some of those people pointing fingers are pitches, some of the sniping is going on it’s pitchers and then we’re 11th in pitching. I’d keep my mouth shut if I was somebody saying something and part of that staff. 11th in the league in pitching, I don’t think I’d be saying too much.

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