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Tuesday, March 27th, 2007

Posted by Mike Sando @ 12:08:38 pm

Mike Holmgren's side barely prevailed in its efforts to prevent a single defensive player from having access to helmet-to-coach radio transmitters worn by quarterbacks. The vote was 22-10 in favor of the device, competition committee co-chairman Rich McKay said, but the proposal needed 24 votes to pass. The issue failed by an 18-14 count last year.

The problem: Defensive players substitute regularly, making it difficult to determine which player is wearing the equipped helmet. It's easy to regulate on offense because there's only one quarterback on the field at any time. But if the middle linebacker's helmet were so equipped, what would happen if he came off the field on third down? Would another player get to wear such a helmet? What if that player stayed on the field with the middle linebacker in another defensive personnel package?

Holmgren, Mike headset lookleft.JPG"I'm going to vote against that. I can understand the sentiment for it, but I think it creates another level of problems because they are saying one guy can have it and that's the middle linebacker, the safety, whoever is calling it. Then if that guy gets hurt, they can't use it anymore. There is a very good chance one of those two guys gets hurt on defense the way they fly around. Then one team has it and the other team doesn't, and then I just reminded them to keep in mind why we have it on offense. It went in on offense because they changed the play clock. Offensive terminology is longer on all teams. And to make it work, they came up with this system to just do that. It was not a strategy thing as much as a time thing. And then lastly I said, 'You call the defense, say you have this system in, you call the defense, the guy goes in motion, the shift takes place, they change the defense anyway. It's not the defensive call anyway. Defense is more reacting.' If you are going to do it, do it for the right reasons." -- Mike Holmgren

Categories: Officiating, NFL Meetings 18 comments

COMMENTS:

Permalink Comment by joemck @ 12:36 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
I'm with Holmgren on this one. It is unfortunate that 18 and now 22 other teams have been suckered into believing this is a good idea ... for what? Is it just a "you've got one, so I want one too"? Mike ... what is the argument in favor of this with which so many teams are enamored?
Permalink Comment by llevrok @ 12:39 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
Let the players play. The radio helmets take the intellegence quotient off the field. We have artifical turf, artifical indoor arenas. There has to be some natural variability in the game.

Permalink Comment by jverhei @ 12:50 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
The real question would be how it would effect scoring.

When the league makes changes in the rules so that scoring increases it makes you wonder if they want more games ending 9-6 or 6-3.

You would think the more defensive minded teams would vote for it as well.

I'm with Holmgren.
Permalink Comment by chuck_easton @ 14:00 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
Mike,

One question comes to mind. I understand that only the QB has communications in his helmet, but what happens when Wallace goes into the game as a WR? Does he still have his communication system or is he required to wear a different helmet?
Permalink Comment by Sharpclaw @ 14:08 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
It's clear to see why HC Holmgren was so well respected
on the NFL Competition committee. He understands the
game the essence of the game and how often brainstorm
rule changes would/could have unintended negative consequences.
Permalink Comment by quelly @ 14:18 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
So the defensive coaches would call presnap shifts? I don't see anything too wrong with that...

jverhei- I think you're on the right track though... I can see some of the offensive advantage being taken away because it would be harder to keep defenses off balance (for Holmy's up tempo play especially)... If this is the case though- it should be up to the league to decide the rule, not coaches.

HA, Mike H. was full of it when he was talking about the play clock stuff... he rarely has to worry about the play clock now. He actually uses the headset to effectively throw defenses off...

I agree with Mike regarding the problem with defenses that play with different personell groupings... and if the player with the radio gets injured... There could be some potential fairness problems...

Permalink Comment by quelly @ 14:20 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
I bet everyone in our division voted for the change...
Permalink Comment by Southendzone @ 14:50 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
What if the Defensive player with the radio came out for a play on offense like NE pats like to do with that one linebacker when they get near the goal line (Is it Vrabel?)

2 players on offense with the radio headset then...
Permalink Comment by Heifitz @ 16:12 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
I'm curious... do back up QB's have the hardware in their helmet already or do they put it in prior to going in? I'm wondering because they say there's only one QB on the field, but what about Seneca Wallace playing WR? Did he have to wear a different helmet, or was his not "wired?"
Permalink Comment by chuck_easton @ 16:16 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
Backup QB's do have their helmets wired which is why you will occasionally see the backup holding his helmet up to the side of his head on the sidelines so he can hear the play being called.
Permalink Comment by hawks4372 @ 16:17 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
Gee, what a catastrophic loss endured by the defensive coaches that have to go up against the offensive genius that is Mike Holmgren. They're at such a disadvantage, THAT THE SEAHAWKS WENT 0-FOR-7 ON 3RD AND 3 OR LESS AGAINST THE BEARS IN THE PLAYOFF GAME!!!!!!!!!

Fire Holmgren!

Permalink Comment by chuck_easton @ 16:39 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
Yes, fire Holmgren. How could he have dropped those passes? Why couldn't he take a clean snap from center and get the ball to his RB? I personally saw him whiff on a block or two!

All the man has done is put be headcoach of a team that has won 3 straight division titles. Has made the playoffs for years in a row and won more games than just about any headcoach in Seattle history. But you are right hawks4372 he should be fired. I'm sure the team will be calling you any minute now to ask you to take over.
Permalink Comment by hawks4372 @ 17:42 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
You're right- he didn't drop the passes. The guy that Holmgren dropped down to draft in the first round of the 2002 draft as the GM dropped the passes. To go with his other first round genius picks Lamar King, Chris McIntosh, and Koren Robinson.

The only way we lose Super Bowl XL is through these bonehead selections and his sheer fright of calling a trick play. I mean, those things never work- right? Nah- let's play it close to the vest. Wouldn't want tot try to do anything possible to win the biggest game on Earth.

He's an overrated blowhard that cost us the Super Bowl. The sooner he goes, the better off we are.

FIRE HOLMGREN!
Permalink Comment by quelly @ 17:46 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
hawks-

It has nothing to do with offensive genius. Just being efficient and uptempo...

You're fired
Permalink Comment by hawks4372 @ 19:22 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
0-for-7 = efficient. Brilliant analysis.
Permalink Comment by spencerdt @ 19:38 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
i think they should allow it because defensive football can be as disorganized as offensive football, and they allow the O to benefit from having a play called.

Each sideline should have a control that only 1 helmet can be active, then if you substitute, you are automatically off unless you report to the control and get turned on. It can't be that difficult to control it and do it right. Fair is fair.
Permalink Comment by quelly @ 20:02 - Tuesday, March 27th, 2007
hawk- You're reading my posts out of context... I am talking about the time it takes to get the play out to the QB and then snapping the ball... Not conversion efficiency. Brilliant comprehension.

spencer- True, but the complexity of an offensive play call balances it out because the defense doesn't exactly call a play... it reads the formation and adjusts from there.
Permalink Comment by Marinerman1979 @ 01:37 - Wednesday, March 28th, 2007
Thank goodness. That rule would had stunk it up.

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