Seahawks Insider - Shaun Alexander update update

Comment by cram @ 18:15 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

I have wondered about Coach Holmgren's thoughts on the recent signings I appreciate the information.

Comment by IDHawkman @ 18:15 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

I had forgotten about the injury. Thanks Frank. And the saga continues. We may have to wait until June or Aug. for him to get declared physically able to play again. I wonder how that will impact the salary cap if it takes that long.

Frank, Can you check into that for us?

Comment by BobbyK @ 18:16 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

I know Wahle is good overall, but I don't know how he is on pulling and in space? Anyone?

We have sucked at screens for a few years but we now have a starting RB who can catch and perhaps a new starting guard who does well in space. That would add a nice chapter to the playbook.

Comment by IDHawkman @ 18:19 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

He also talked to Mo Morris? In what context? Was there any indication why Mo was at the facility today? Is he being released also?

If he's trying to figure out how to use TJ, it indicates he already knows how he wants to use JJ. Did he indicate how that was? Running backs by committee with Mo or feature back with ?? as change of pace? TJ?

Any word on Weaver and maybe some interest in him for the 2nd round tender offer?

Comment by rramstad @ 18:19 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Rumormongering, anyone?

Comment by IDHawkman @ 18:24 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Bobby,

After we signed him I went back and watched the Carolina game we had with them this year. When Carolina needed a yard or tough yardage, they ran behind Wahle. I also saw him check his hole for stunts on the O-line and then when he verified there was no one coming he was quick enough to get back and knock Tapp around the back of their QB in helping their OT. Tapp's speed rush around the outside was totally stifled because of this.

FInally, I saw him pull a time or two and he even went out on a screen pass. He wasn't necessarily "blowing people up" but then it was "our" defense from last year. We had good defenders last year. He did take up space and give the RB a choice of cutting inside or outside.

All around I was satisfied in his abilities. He's no Faneca or Futch but hey, he is not a bad OG. I hope he meshes with Spencer and Jones and the rest of the line with Solari's help.

Comment by navy_at_3 @ 18:33 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008 http://www.seahawkshuddle.com

to add to idaduhhawk...

we not only had good defenders.. but speedy one's too.

Comment by nighthawk2 @ 18:38 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Every day that passes is a day closer to Alexander getting feces-canned. I want to see the look on his face when he gets it Trump style: "You're fired!".

Carolina has released center Justin Hartwig, who was supposed to compete for starting right guard. Wonder if there's enough scratch left to sign him?

Comment by navy_at_3 @ 18:40 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008 http://www.seahawkshuddle.com

just a wild guess ...

he will probably be smiling

Comment by navy_at_3 @ 18:47 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008 http://www.seahawkshuddle.com

Justin Hartwig is injury prone... doubt that hawks would go after him baised on that... and something like he was due 2.1mil this year.

Comment by nidhighe @ 18:51 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

The injury is another good argument against keeping Shaun: he's injury prone and slow to heal.

Comment by firejimmoradotcom @ 18:52 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Oh, to be a fly on the wall in Kirkland right now....

And I can just imagine the conversation btw SA and his agent.

"Ok, you lay down in the driveway, and I'll back over your cast. That way, they can't cut you."

Comment by IDHawkman @ 18:55 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

I don't know if either of you have ever fired someone or have been fired yourself but it is nothing to revel in for either party. I for one, do not take joy in others dispair. And even though it happens, there are ways to do it to not rub salt in a wound.

But hey, if that floats your boat, go for it.

Comment by hawkdawg @ 19:09 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Good scoop, Frank.

Comment by Belgaron @ 19:16 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Holmgren would never admit how annoying it was to hear Alexander demanding the ball for one of his patented hurry up and stop moves of recent years. They do not want him at training camp or in the locker room. The Holmgren Hasselback passing attack creates opportunities for a good back especially with the improved o-line. This will be a much better year. It's just too bad how much SA's deal will eat into the salary cap this year and next.

Comment by STTBM @ 19:18 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Shaun is pissed, you can bet. But he will end up playing for a contender, and be seriously motivated to kick our ass if possible. There is a good chance he still has gas left in his tank, and if he does Ruskell is gonna look like a fool--again. it will be hutch times 2.

Instead of kicking Shauns ass on his way out, fans should be supportive. He said and did all the right things last year, and the year before. he played hurt, accepted the role the coach assigned him. His production stunk last year, but much of that was due to the line. It isnt like Morris or Weaver looked any better with the same line.

Shaun is a wierd, arrogant dude. He thinks god loves him more than anyone else, and that makes me wanna puke. But he is the best Rb the Hawks ever had, the only MVP we ever had, and he didnt deserve this from Ruskell. Guess he should have reworked his contract....still, glorying in his being fired is pathetic. Shaun is tougher than any of the wimps on this blog who jeered him.

We didnt treat Warner this way, even though Warners skills had faded to near invisibility. He left for less money in order to avoid a backup role--but at least it was his choice. We didnt even treat Chris Warren this way, even though teammates here and in Dallas said he didnt even try his last year or two. AND he was a deadbeat dad...

So stop jeering Shaun. Wish him well, and pray he doesnt run circles around that wuss Julius Jones and that slow ogre Duckett.

Comment by truehawk @ 19:29 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Cmon.....We all watched him over the last couple years and wanted him benched, I dont care what the reason are that he didnt play well, this team HAS to go in a different direction. He will be one of the ALL TIME greats in our franchise history and will get into the ring of honor, but he/we need to move on, this team is too close to competing for another SuperBowl run, and we dont need to lie to ourselves about that. I wish him luck if he lands somewhere and hope he has some good years, and even if we face him as an apponent, and he runs all over us, we will still be the team that wins that game and moves into the playoffs.
Just ask most of the experts out there that bashed him all last year about his pussy foot running and falling down all the time, I am ready for a change!!!!! So should all of you.
I love what TRuskell has done and anyone who bashes him needs to look back on how this organization used to run itself, used to be pathetic excuse for an NFL franchise, and now have turned into a respectable organization with a front office and scouting department that know how to build a team year in and year out ot be able to compete. I doubt You will see this Organixation in a rebuilding mode while Tim is at the helm.

GO HAWKS!! GO RUSKELL!!!! I TRUST YOU!!!

Comment by chuck_easton @ 19:29 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

lesh,

Shaun's running style will not work anywhere anymore. He just doesn't have the ability to burst through the hole. He may go somewhere else, but the fans and the organization won't be NEARLY as forgiving of his flop at the first sign of a hit running style as we have been here in Seattle.

I have loved what Shaun has done for this team. I cheered him throughout 2005. I defended him in 2006 and blamed everything on the bad luck of the broken foot. I even tried to be understanding last year and say that it was because of the wrist.

But the fact is, the guy just doesn't seem to have the 'wanto' to run hard anymore and actually looks like he's afraid of getting hit.

He may suprise us all and go somewhere next year and have one more good year just to prove the doubters wrong. If that happens great for him. I, for one, don't want him to go out of the league being remembered for his 2007 performance. I really thought he was a sure fire HOFer, but I'm not sure he has the National votes for that anymore if you believe what is being said on all the National programs.

That being said, I don't see Shaun EVER regaining that 2005 form here in Seattle.

Comment by TarCat @ 19:39 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Hey IDHawkman, usually when you talk about an O-line guy you use the term "gap" not hole. "I also saw him check his hole for stunts" I almost shot coffee out my nose! Too funny.

Comment by Belgaron @ 19:42 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

leshthomas,

Shaun Alexander = Hutchx2????

Would you like to be in my fantasy football league?

Comment by GordonTV @ 19:46 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

I've met SA more than a couple times at his house. He really is a great guy, but as for running for the Seahawks (or any other NFL team) it's a dead end. Watch for him to hang it up when he gets released by the Seahawks. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take on a coaching/mentoring role with the Hawks (that would really piss Holmgren off)...

Comment by pabuwal @ 20:16 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

All the Seahawks RBs were awful in obvious run situations. Morris was the biggest disaster of them all. That Cleveland game was one of the worst efforts I saw in decades as a Seahawks fan against an awful defensive line. A fumble on 4th down? At least try to run the ball!

Before I forget, both Morris and Weaver run a mean draw play!

Comment by PapaHawk @ 20:17 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

This kind of reminds me of the Marcus Allen/Raiders situation. He went to KC and showed he had plenty of gas left in the tank. However, he never won another MVP and didn't return to the Superbowl. He retired a Chief and has never forgiven the Raiders. He would piss on their logo if it were there for him to do. This is no way to leave a player who meant so much to the organization. If the Hawks release him, this is no way to end a relationship such as this. Heck, the guy even lives in Seattle and has a wife who is from the area.

Granted, the end is near anyway, but I really feel like this is ugly and likely to end up hurting. I wonder where he'll end up...I disagree with GordonTV in that he'll hang it up this year. I think he'll sign somewhere in the NFC where he can stick it to the Hawks...at least once. Perhaps in Chicago or Atlanta or somewhere that will use him in some role. Maybe the NY Jets. The man still has juice left in the legs.

This is no Hutch x 2 though... Shaun is way more replaceable and less important to the leadership of his unit. Hutch is missed more for his leadership than for his braun...and that is missed. Hopefully Mike Wahle can replace some of that leadership.

Comment by dover5005 @ 20:18 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

leshthomas

thing about warner is that free agency now a days is so differnt and teams lose a good percentage of thier team every year thats just how it is now a days

it's a business

it's all about what you have done for me latley - and shuan hasn't done much

Comment by Belgaron @ 20:19 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

As a guy who ignored the opportunity to address and work on his weaknesses as a pass blocker or receiver out of the backfield over 9 years, he isn't coaching material.

Comment by rbuzby @ 21:09 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Hey guys, look at it like this: All the uncertainty about the Seahawks run game will only make it harder to game plan against them on defense.

Comment by Leroyhill @ 21:25 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Frank,

I didn't realize that you have to be at the headquarter when there was nothing going on. I thought you would stay at home during these days, and wait until something comes up, and write a story about it. The day can seem very long when you have to do that, doesn't it?

Comment by SanDiegoHawksFan @ 21:30 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

No one else finds it ironic that a SA injury is once again preventing him from contributing to the Hawks (this time in the way of trade/release)?

Thanks for your work SA, you were a solid B+ runner for a good stretch. Too bad you lost it these past couple of years

Comment by Dukeshire @ 21:45 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Leshthomas, are you serious. Curt Warner had a knee reconstruction to blame for his decline. Alexander has never had an injury that even remotely approaches that. Save the broken foot. And as for Warren, he was a bum. A softer runner than Alexander was at any point, and tha's quite an inditement. His numbers are so misleading I wouldn't even know where to begin. Alexander may have productive years left in him, but not without hall of famers leading the way, you know, like Hutch. Unless Timmay is planning on releasing Hass or Lofa, nothing he does in the future will approach the Hutch debacle.

Comment by littlelamb @ 21:50 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

We all saw what Alexander couldn't do this last year. If he goes to another team and puts out a full effort and doesn't run soft, that's on him. I've seen enough two yard hook slides thank you very much. Audios seniorita!

Comment by quelly @ 22:55 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Bobbyk... very brief scouting report on Wahle: http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/teams/players/bio/?id=3133&hubname=nfl-panthers

Comment by bigmike04 @ 23:33 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

Hey shaun Alexander dont let the door hit you on your butt when you get cut.

NaNaNana hey hey hey goodbye:)

Comment by nighthawk2 @ 23:48 - Tuesday, March 11th, 2008

"Shaun is pissed, you can bet. But he will end up playing for a contender, and be seriously motivated to kick our ass if possible. There is a good chance he still has gas left in his tank, and if he does Ruskell is gonna look like a fool--again. it will be hutch times 2."

I needed a laugh, thanks. That's just too funny.

Comment by jerrycurl @ 00:01 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Papahawk... I thought it was interesting that you compared Shaun to Marcus Allen. I've said his entire career that he was the modern day Allen. Both played for themselves, and both only seem to truly run hard when the endzone was near. Everyone always thought Al Davis was the bad guy in that situation. Then when Allen went to KC, a lot of his ex-teammates talked about how he was never a team player, and that he only cared about his own accolades. Sound familiar?

Shaun will probably move on and play well, but my guess would be that it would only happen because he'll be forced into signing an incentive based deal. Which is pretty much the only time we ever got 100% of him, when he was playing for the dough.

Comment by triplea @ 00:04 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

I was very surprised when the Hawks signed Alexander for eight years! Why would you sign, then a 28 year old, running back for eight additional years? It seems that Hutch, Jones, and Mack, gave us the illusion that Alexander was a great back. I never did like his style of running, look at his Alabama videos on youtube, but he did seem like a different back when it came to finding the endzone. The last time I was impressed with Alexander, was during the loss to Chicago in the second round of the 2006-2007 postseason.

Comment by misleduser @ 00:33 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

it really is to bad that shuan is most likely gonna be cut I just hope that he does not go to another team and blow it up again but as much as I like shaun I want the seahwks to win more I just hope that thier going to put as much effort in fixing the O line as they have into fixing the running backs.

GO HAWKS!!!

Comment by city_by_the_bay @ 00:41 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 http://seahawksnest.com

Wouldn't it be great if Arizona signed him?

You know they would, too.

Comment by Dukeshire @ 01:13 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Except for the fact that Marcus Allen could block, catch the ball and is in Canton, you are right, very similar.

Comment by navy_at_3 @ 01:34 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 http://www.seahawkshuddle.com

i was just going to write that city_by_the_bay lol

After all AZ does need a RB and most likely will draft one... what better way to mold a new RB with a vet RB... little do they know should they hire SA that their new rookie rb will learn how to drop balls, not pass block, dance around like it was cool, and fall down before getting touch to "avoid getting injuried" (like that worked out well).

But hey.. whatever. AZ if your listening PLEASE sign SA once he is cut. It would feel great to beat AZ with SA on their team.

Comment by Oldslow @ 01:50 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

There are two sides to most stories. Allen may have been a jerk, but Al Davis kept him out of the lineup and refused to trade him for a couple of years during Allen's prime. That was purely spiteful vindictiveness, and did not allow Allen to produce to the level that he might have. Sick stuff.

Comment by downinthegroove78 @ 02:03 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Yeah except for the fact that AZ has James as a vet to mold youngsters...

Comment by navy_at_3 @ 02:07 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 http://www.seahawkshuddle.com

true dat

dang it.

maybe car or i know... WASHINGTON will pick him up lol.

Comment by jerrycurl @ 02:14 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Allen had two outstanding years in 84 & 85, but his production tailed off after that. He was a good to very good back for the majority of his career. He's in the HOF because he was a compiler, he played 16 seasons, but his production was never the same after 85. He was a very good situational player for the Chiefs. Like I mentioned in my previous post he was a different player inside the red zone so he scored a lot. Just like Alexander, but Allen's production dropped off before he was benched. Also he was benched in 91 & 92 when he was 31 & 32 years old. He was about 6 years removed from his best ball at that point. The only difference between him and Roger Craig, also a good to very good back, but not great, was about 4 seasons, does he deserve to be in the HOF?

Comment by subtlesquire @ 03:05 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Allen was a lock to pick up the first down from a yard and a half out, even in his last years. He just went up and over and it was almost impossible stop.

Comment by tezzer21 @ 04:39 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

So what if Shaun has a couple of good games and "takes it to his old team". That is a motivator. We know Shaun CAN run when he is motivated to do so. So he plays a couple good games AGAINST us. Who cares. It's not worth paying $4 million bucks to keep him on OUR team when there's no motivation for him to play hard. You don't keep players on your team because of what they COULD do to you. You keep them on the team and pay them for what you can COUNT ON them to do for you, week in and week out. Lots of players are more valuable off your team than on it. It's out of our control. Let him move on and if he plays well, it will be because he either has personal motivation to do so, or because another team has more synergistic players, schemes, plays that play to his strength. Obviously, the Seahawks do not have either of those things, or he would be playing better. Get over it. He needs to be on someone else's team. Good Luck Shaun. And thanks for what you did for us, while you were doing it!

Comment by mquinn73 @ 04:55 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Wow, some fans really are fickle...
While I think that the front office is doing the right thing in attempting to upgrade the running game by [amongst other things] replacing Shaun Alexander, I don't agree with alot of the messages on this board expressing glee in seeing the guy get cut from the team.
Shaun Alexander was a GREAT player for the Seattle Seahawks - the stats speak for themselves - and we can only hope that Julius Jones, TJ Duckett and/or any future draft pick has half the career that SA had here.
But Alexander knows this is business - just like every other guy, including Ruskell & Holmgren - and the time has eventually come to part ways. Shaun has been well rewarded for doing his business in Seattle - and the team has equally benefitted from his productivity during that time.
I trust that all concerned will act with the dignity that defines the Seattle Seahawks as the classiest team in the NFL. We are the best....

Comment by city_by_the_bay @ 04:57 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 http://seahawksnest.com

I've heard AZ is growing tired of James.

And we all know that SA pulled out his best performances agains the Cards.

Although, today Fitzgerald restructured, which shows that the franchise itself is making big strides.

Still, they could just be enamored enough with Alexander to bring him on, plus, don't discount the vengeance factor was SA is cut. You don't think he would sign on the cheap as a "prove me" kind of year to stick to the Hawks within the division?

Who knows, probably not, but, I agree, it would be great to see him go to AZ.

Comment by nighthawk2 @ 05:51 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Fitzgerald didn't restructure, he signed a four year new contract that will still pay him $33 million in the first 4 years AND has a no trade clause in it. That new contract is what frees the money for Arizona. They wanted him to sign a six year deal but he insisted on a 4 year contract.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3287855

Comment by nighthawk2 @ 05:52 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

That should be $33 million over the first 3 years.

Comment by LondonHawk @ 08:12 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

I reckon the Jones signing came about because they asked SA to restructure and he shot them down. The reality of the NFL is that you get paid based on production and SA production over the past 2 seasons means his pay has to go down to stay with this team. Personally I like the guy and I think he has given the Seahawks everything he had to give, it might not be as much as I would have liked, but it was what he had.

I think the Allen analogies are pretty accurate. I do think he can be productive, but whether or not he will depends on him. I think he will be cut post June 1 rather than restructure. He'll probably play somewhere else for less money. Don't be surprised though if he retires if he is cut. Ricky Waters was still willing to play but couldn't find a team willing to take him on at his price. SA might find that it more difficult to find a team willing to pony up much cash for him.

Comment by IDHawkman @ 08:47 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Shaun is going to be fine. He's got family, religion, health AND money. He'll probably make some more money with either a restructure or a new contract somewhere else when/if we cut him.

The team has more at stake here than SA does. The FO's dealings with SA will either attract Free Agents or deter them. It's a hard sell already to get really good and great players to move (or stay like Lofa, Hill ,etc) in "East Egypt." If the FO treats their "stars" like dirt, we won't get any players in FA going forward and we won't be able to keep the ones we have.

So "if" the front office cuts SA this year, I hope they do it in a classy way so as not to scare off future signings. That's going to be hard to do with their actions and statements to date regarding SA "being here."

There is another side to this issue that I've argued many times in this forum regarding the talent that we are signing. NO WAY is JJ and TJ better than a healthy SA. They are about the same as the injured SA over the last two years. TR is absolutely lights out in getting impact defensive players from either the draft or FA, but he has consistently missed with his offensive moves. Our team is moving into a new phase of NFL play where we will start seeing low scoring defensive battles where either the defense will have to score or we will have to use an opportunistic offense. Hard to do that with a rookie kicker though.

Comment by Just me @ 09:19 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

TR does not operate in a vacuum. You don't think Holmgren gives input on offensive players. Ultimately, TR makes the decision on where to go, and How much money to spend but the coach gets input. (Yes, I left this for you whiners to bring up the disaster, but you were going to do that anyway).

also, it takes 2 to tango, if you will. Josh Brown left for more money and a dome - oh yeah "and for a better chance of winning . . . " Whatever. The only thing that was going to keep brown in Seattle was More $$$. and he is not worth overpaying when we already have cap issues.

NE, Dallas, and many other teams have done fine with no name kickers and we can too. (yes we need a long snapper - but I didn't say will, I said can)

Maybe we should just get a new "video" guy and not worry about who we have on the team and just cheat our way to the top!!!

Comment by airbags @ 09:19 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

cornering timmay in the parking lot - nice job hughesness.

you can run, you can hide, but you gotta commute some time!

Comment by airbags @ 09:24 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

just me - who is to say that most of the teams in the league don't have video guys, anyway.

Comment by Just me @ 09:40 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Oh, I think they do - in some sort. but that's why I suggested a NEW video guy. Ours must not be up to snuff.

And hey they don't count against the cap. So maybe we can get a whole Mission impossible team and never get caught. Well at least deny any knowledge of them!!

Comment by c_hawkbob @ 09:47 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

The only thing all this clears up for me is that we can't rely on anything Ruskell tells us.

At least not about what we may yet do ... if he tells me what we've already done or perhaps why we've done something his credibility may remain intact but his "we're not planning on cutting Alexander or even asking him to restructure his contract" lie seemed disturbingly natural for him. It's also one that I still can't figure any advantage to be gained by having told, so evidently there needn't even be good reason for lying to us.

Now don't all you Ruskellites go getting your panties in a wad, honesty is not after all a prerequisite to being a good GM, it's just something we're going to have to get used to.

An adjustment to my BS-o-meter was clearly in order.

Comment by IDHawkman @ 09:56 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Just me,

Yes, NE and Dallas have done fine with average kickers, but if you are a GM that is restructuring your team to play defensive - low scoring battles on Sunday like this team is being built, you put more weight on your kicker to make those few opportunities that you get. I'm not advocating keeping Josh. What I am saying is that TR has been moving this way for the last 3 years, so he's had time to address that position with the right guy an lock him up for a long time. We didn't do it.

Bob,

BS-o-meter. Took a few minutes to clean my screen off but that was great. I just sumitted mine to the calibration shop also.

Comment by airbags @ 10:33 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

well, maybe he wasn't planning on doing it because his plan was already in place... he was executing the plan.

semantics, sure, but interesting nonetheless.

Comment by firejimmoradotcom @ 11:19 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

SA would be perfect in Washington. It's jesus-freak central.

Comment by Just me @ 11:24 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

"we're not planning on cutting Alexander or even asking him to restructure his contract" lie seemed disturbingly natural for him. It's also one that I still can't figure any advantage to be gained by having told, so evidently there needn't even be good reason for lying to us."

1 very good reason- we can't cut him now because of his injury. a few years ago, I think it was Cincy tried to cut someone and either had to take them back and/or had to pay the salary and was fined by the NFL. So if we plan to cut him now and announce it. then we can be in trouble becuase of the CBA.

IDHAWKMAN - Yes our team has emphasized the defense lately - BECAUSE WE HAD TOO!!! How many times did we loose a shoot out in the last 5 years. TOO MANY - so all of us were complaining - Why isn't the defense better to match the offense. It started before TR when we hired Ray Rhodes as DC. He has continued the trend.
He hasn't had much of a chance to work on the Offense yet. but so far I agree the results aren't flattering

Comment by c_hawkbob @ 11:40 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

His injury is a reason for not cutting him until he passes a physical, not a reason for Tim lying to his fan base about his intentions. Nor is it an explanation of an advantage to be gained by the deception.

Comment by IDHawkman @ 11:41 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

No argument that the defense had to be addressed. That's why I put TRs entire past under the microscope. I can't find one Marquis offensive player that he signed in FA or in the draft. But he has done many defensive ones. That is somewhat disturbing to me. Not because I don't like defense (I actually like watching defense more than offense), but because I think we need an offense that can put together a reasonable amount of points. 27 points is what I think we need to score in every game to give us the dominant team we need. Also, that many points will continue to sell tickets. Less than that and the fans will become bored and lose interest. Loss of interest results in less willingness of the owner to spend money. Etc, etc.

I may be wrong, and actually hope I am. Time will tell and April draft is coming soon. I'll be watching to see the first 4 round selections.

As I see it, the offense has only 3 "skilled position" starters coming back with WCO experience. Hass, Burleson and Engram. Anyone else have more that I missed? That's not good when you have a playbook the size of Holmgren's. And I know a lot of us are sick of the same old predictable plays. I don't think the new guys will know more than just a couple dozen plays and I'm confident they will not have the necessary time in practice to run them well.

Comment by chuck_easton @ 12:11 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Weaver will sign his tender at some point because no team is likely to give up a 2nd rounder for him. He's not Strong, but who is? And Weaver did start the majority of the Seahawks 2007 games at FB.

Comment by IDHawkman @ 12:24 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Yep, Mack went down early in the 5th game. Weaver spent the rest of the year starting the last 11. Pretty great effort by Weaver to go from the bubble in preseason to replacing the legend known as Mack Strong. Weaver went through a steep curve there.

BTW, SA had 353 yards on 91 rushes, and 35 yards on 7 catches in those first 4 games. Dropping down to 25 yards on 11 rushes and 7 yards on 3 catches in the 5th game. He got over 50 yards only twice the rest of the season.

Comment by nwdave @ 12:26 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

What I liked most about Alexander was his desire to score when inside the 20. He really did run like a different RB.

I don't know if I agree with simply cutting him but this IS the NFL after all. It'll be weird without #37 in there.

Comment by IdahoSeahawk @ 13:27 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Maybe we can trade Alexander to Miami for Taylor, give them a 2nd or 3rd round pick to go with him and say goodbye to the tip over running back once known as Shaun Alexander...the only reason the Seahawks missed out on the last 2 Superbowls. I say good by, and if you want to stay, re-do your deal. You are getting way too much for your girly ball.

Comment by TAXEXPERT @ 15:28 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Josh Brown was 26th in field goal percentage in 2007.

Comment by navy_at_3 @ 15:29 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 http://www.seahawkshuddle.com

idahawk did you make this video for SA?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbJ4TkdWnzQ&feature=related

FRANK any word on JJ's EXACT base salary for the next 4 years? I'm hearing rumors that he will make just 700k this year base salary which seems somewhat odd considering LT and SA will make 7.2-7.5 base salary apx this year.

Comment by IDHawkman @ 16:33 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Navy,

are you really in the Navy? If so, grow up.

JJ's base salary is typical for the level of play he plays.

Comment by navy_at_3 @ 17:30 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 http://www.seahawkshuddle.com

grow up? what we can't laugh around here and have a good time?

The video is a mock man... take it for what it's worth but dont get all butt hurt bout it.

typical for the level of play he plays? wtf mate?

He's more then not going to be a starter for the hawks. I only know of rookie's that get 400-750k base salary for their first year. The question is genuine.

Comment by IDHawkman @ 18:44 - Wednesday, March 12th, 2008

Unfortunately, the answer was genuine also. Look at it this way.

1. We offered him what we could.

2. He accepted it because it was the best offer to him.

3. The money is not starter nor feature back money.

Put them together with his career stats and he's getting paid very well for his production. In 4 years he's only carried the ball 885 times. Less than 225 carries a season. He's had 18 career Touchdowns (all rushing). Elite backs usually have that in one season if not more into the 20 TD range per season. (I know there's reas

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