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Seahawks Insider
Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008
Posted by Frank Hughes @ 07:16:49 pm

Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce and former running back Eddie George were on The Best Damn Sports Show, Period. They were not kind to Shaun Alexander:

Antonio Pierce (about Alexander): “He’s soft. You will hurt yourself as a defender trying to tackle him. You ain’t gonna hit him because he’s going to fall down before you get there….The guy runs hard. I have a lot of respect for how he runs the ball. But when it comes down to the toughness of the game, the physicalness of the game, he doesn’t want no part of it.”

Eddie George (about Shaun Alexander) “Losing (guard) Steve Hutchinson exposed him for the runner he is. And he’s not an aggressive running back to begin with. When Steve was there, the holes were bigger than this room. My grandmother could have run and got those yards. Now when it calls for him to get the hard two and three-yard runs, he’s not accustomed to doing that.”

Categories: Quotes 36 comments

COMMENTS:

airbags @ 19:32 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email

hey! no one slams shaunwinkle but US!

frobro @ 19:46 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
If you would all be so kind as to list your current and past jobs/careers and explain to us all how friggin tough you are and why that is so, before you tear apart someone else's life work, that would be great.

This "Shaun" blasting that is going on is ridiculous. It is the equivalent of you telling someone that your infant child learned a new word and then that person tells you that your child is a flippin moron.

Look at yourselves in the mirror, do a quick evaluation, punch yourselves in the balls, and shut the **** up.

BE A TRUE HAWKS FAN
firejimmoradotcom @ 20:09 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
I'm glad he's gone.

And so is he.
joemck @ 20:09 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
Alexander certainly contributed a lot to the Hawks over the years, and that is really where most comentary on SA should be focused at this time, but any reporter covering this space would be remiss to not mention the reason Alexander is no longer of value to the team he helped so much for so long.

I don't think Pierce or George were at all inaccurate in their remarks. I completely agree that the decimated O-line exposed Alexander for the runningback he really is.

Jim Zorn said it best a week or so after being named head coach of the Redskins. As he was complementing C. Portis, it was also clear he was referencing the most recent RB he had worked with in his offense as he noted how great it is that Portis can stay in for all four downs because he can pass block, catch the ball out of the backfield and convert short yardage situations.

Also, I think you have to give Eddie George some expert status when it comes to toughness running the ball, b/c he was one of the toughest. I loved watching one game toward the end of his career when he had dislocated his shoulder either the week before or earlier in the game and used that same arm to stiff-arm Ray Lewis (quite effectively too) to pick up three yards and convert a third down.
frobro @ 20:22 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
Thank you joemck for posting an honest appraisal that is void of any senseless hating.

I agree we needed to move Alexander, I just dont think we need to rip him apart. I have a feeling the people who do that will become cowboy fans the second we dont win our division. Shame on them if they do.

PS: Shaun and his 2005 teamates ran us into the superbowl, just in case people forgot...
hawkdawg @ 20:35 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
Eddie George was one tough runner, no doubt about it. But he had the vision of a mole, compared to Shaun.
TechWorlds @ 21:32 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
Piss off Eddie George. You are a hass been. Amazing that people that don't take the field can throw darts like that. Shows the character that they possess. Wimps
kurtisballard @ 21:48 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
for someone who lost his effectiveness WELL before the age of 30, he sure feels comfortable talking about someone who lost their effectiveness after that point. did eddie even ever average over 4 yards a carry??!!

say what you want about the past two years, but shaun ran harder than anybody in the red zone. i highly doubt eddie george would have scored 112 touchdowns running behind steve hutchison or not.
Canfan @ 22:46 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
You don't get as many yards as Shaun did just by running through big holes. Shaun is still capable of getting 1,300 yards -- if he's running behind a decent Oline.

Eddie George's career average: 3.6.
Shaun's career average: 4.3
Canfan @ 22:50 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
The title of this post should be "Two idiots slam Shaun Alexander."
tp10super @ 23:55 - Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 Email
Antonio Pierce's self appointed nickname is "Mr. Monday Night". The guy is a joke...a 1 time pro bowler on the wrong side of 30. Eddie George should look in the mirror when looking at 37 because they have had similar career paths. Totally different runners, but started early in their careers, getting 300 carries a year and 350 touches (back when 37 used to catch) took their team to a SB, got cut, and ended up with another team by the time they realized the didn't have it anymore.

I'm not a 37 apologist but you have to take a step back and look at the situation...

Would the Seahawks have won 13 straight and made it to the SB w/out 37? Would they have made it w/out Hutch? Would they have made it w/out Marquand Manuel? The answer to all 3 is NO. 37 helped Hutch as much as Hutch helped 37 and fans with true football knowledge know this.

I'm glad 37 is gone only because it's what's best for the Hawks present and future, but don't kid yourself into thinking that he was garbage. He is one of the top 5 players in FRANCHISE HISTORY and we will all be looking at 37 in the Ring of Honor next to 17, 12, 80, 45, 78, 25, and someday 71, 8, and 38.

Best of luck to you Shaun, you thrilled us for 8 years. Your Minnesota game in 2002 was one of my top 5 in person sports moments of all time and I appreciate all you did for the Hawks.
the3mitchells @ 00:03 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Hes gone, let it go and good luck to him.
bassnw @ 04:27 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Yeah, what do those pro players know anyway, right STDFB? Reality is harsh for some of these SA groupies.
JoSCh @ 05:23 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Yeah bassnw, it's not like they have a motive or anything. BDSSP =! hyperbole for ratings, you can tell they aren't by their name... Aren't you the same f-tard that says Warner was a better halfback?
bartholder22 @ 06:56 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
It is amamzing how quickly does Eddie "3 yds and a cloud of dust" George forgets that he ran behind a HOF tackle/guard named Bruce Matthews his entire career-

3.7yds per carry for an entire career? 3.7 yds per carry got SA fired in Seattle
natman @ 07:34 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
I am not a Shaun Alexander fan but I'm confused why this blog is sponsoring cheap shots by current/former players. I suggest we focus on the future and let Shawn go...
csungrad @ 07:57 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
First, you can't attach any validity to anything aired on "Best Damn." That show is out for shock value, plain and simple. Second, I do think its rather classless of George and Pierce to attack Shaun like that. 37 is a good guy, who never called anybody out, and exhibited class on and off the field. George is just bitter.
blocis @ 08:50 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
In 2001 Shaun took over running the ball from Ricky Watters, the o-line was not that good, but he was still a very productive NFL running back.

Check his career stats out

http://www.nfl.com/players/shaunalexander/profile?id=ALE617460
brew @ 09:34 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008
Frank...I'm pretty disappointed that you would post this as even being "newsworthy". Why consider the opinion of a "has been" RB who ran behind a HOF tackle and statistically, can't hold a candle, to SA? Why is he an "expert"? And then throw in some "above average" LB? Why is he an "expert"?

Good grief...I don't have a problem if someone wants to call Shaun "soft". I'd rather have a "soft" RB with his numbers than a "tough" guy that that doesn't produce.

When the decision was announced by the Hawks that they were releasing SA, TR lauded him and referred to looking forward to the day when Shaun was in the Ring of Honor, even hoping that he (TR) would still be with the Seahawks when that day came. Maybe it was all BS...but it's still what was said.

But more than that, Shaun's prepared statement to the press was nothing but gracious and appreciative to the organization, the fans, and the city.

Why can't we show him the same respect and grace as he did? He's done some things that some people would consider to be an embarassment to himself...but he never did anything that brought disrespect to the team or the city. He wasn't Ken Hamlin (on and off the field), or Jeremy Stevens, or Koren Robinson, or even Rocky Bernard (not to mention Sean Locklear and even Bryce Fisher). He didn't flip the rod at management by allowing his agent to negotiate a poison pill clause.

Just say "thanks" and let him go...I'm sorry. I just don't understand the purpose or the need for the posting of this...much less the credibility of those who have made the statements.

I'm sure I'll get some responses to this...
jibo1 @ 10:03 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
This BS is boring,let it go!!
JoeHawk51 @ 10:26 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
15 or more touchdowns in five consecutive years. Nobody in the history of the NFL has ever done that but SA. Nobody

If he was playing for a team on the East coast, the comments would be more about being a first ballot Hall of Fame'r.

Dont jump on Frank, he is only the messenger here. I like knowing what is being said around the leauge even when it is full of holes.
Dukeshire @ 10:28 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
I'm not about to take up for either one of those guys, but what did they say that 'Hawks fans havn't said many times before? He's gone, get over it.
WiscCory @ 10:31 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
"he doesn’t want no part of it.”

Does that mean he wants a small part of some of it? Or maybe no part of all of it, but some part of something else? Or a part of him wants something, but none of this? A big part of Shaun wants a little part of it, but not no part of it?

How did this guy get a gig on TV?
mikew177 @ 11:32 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Hey tp10super there is one number you missed and I hope to see it in the ring of honor as well. That's #84.
seafanalways @ 12:28 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
who?
brew @ 12:33 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008
WiscCory: He messed up. He meant to say, "He don't want no part of it."
WiscCory @ 15:50 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Thanks Brew. That don't shed no light on it.
bassnw @ 16:00 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Alexander wouldn't have been allowed to clean Curt Warners cleats.


I'm done talking to clueless dinks about this...go light another candle for your diva. Hell, Frank posted this just to try and educate some of u clueless wonders about football....a wasted effort.
SupaFreak @ 17:37 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Yeah, by your insults and superiority complex, we can tell who the real "clueless dink" is.

I love Curt Warner as a player, and he had great escapability, but his career was far too short to judge how he would have compared to Shaun over a comparable period of time, and Shaun had great vision, while Warner didn't have great vision, but great moves to escape runners in the backfield. They were different types of players, both great in their own ways.
Canfan @ 18:58 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
They were different types of players, both great in their own ways.


Well-said. Both were great.
realHawk @ 23:01 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Thanks Salamander but it time to pack up your nail polish and your a55 pad and hit the road. Pete said so! Now shut up about this and lets talk about Shockey!

Gooooo Sa-Hawks!
bingbong @ 23:18 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
i always have a great time at seahawk stadium, but i can't tell you how much more fun it will be to not have to worry about punching myself in the nuts everytime i see shaun salamander lay down, stumble, tuck, or trip, in front of a defender.

without ranting about all the things that drive me crazy about 37, i will simply say that his "style" has always bothered me and he's pretty much the opposite, in regards to almost everything i love about football.

go hawks!
realHawk @ 23:42 - Thursday, April 24th, 2008 Email
Pete said sean salamander is a pear. I say he's a crab but we both agree that Jeremy Shockey should be a Hawk. Chad too. And Chad too. And Pete.
Shattah206 @ 12:54 - Friday, April 25th, 2008 Email
bingbong, I really don't want to hear about your excuses for self injury (or gratification, whatever). . . and no ocho cinco here, please.
hawkdawg @ 13:09 - Friday, April 25th, 2008 Email
It makes no sense to say a guy has great moves but no vision. Moves are great because they allow the runner to go where the tacklers ain't. You gotta be able to see where the holes are to have great moves. Otherwise, you'll just cut into tackles right and left. Warner had great vision, and he was tough as nails. If he hadn't gotten that knee early on, he was destined for true greatness. Only full-time TB I've seen with quicker cuts was Barry Sanders.
footballscaa @ 16:00 - Friday, April 25th, 2008 Email
SA was a good back on some great teams. But when he needed to be a great back on good teams the talent wasn't there. Both of those comments were dead on. He is soft, an LB runs near him and he's off to the sideline. When he hits a hole standing straight up he looks like he dosen't want to be there. I don't think he did. #84 in the ring of honor? Sam McCullem? Not quite a hero. frobro, you need to take it easy. Put your 2005 Seahawks highlight video in and rub one out.

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