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Friday, September 19th, 2008
Posted by Frank Hughes @ 02:17:19 pm

It appears as if Courtney Taylor has lost his starting job at flanker to newly acquired Keary Colbert after Taylor struggled through his first two games. Taylor still is going to see playing time but not as prominently as he once did.

One player who may not see playing time is Koren Robinson, who did not do a great deal in practice and still is hampered by his sore knee. Mike Holmgren said Robinson is going to be a "Sunday decision" to determine exactly what his role in the game will be.

There also is a good chance that Sean Locklear plays, though that is another "Sunday decision." Locklear has looked pretty good in practice all week and has done increasingly more each day, getting time back at right tackle today because Walter Jones was back, as was Rocky Bernard and Kelly Jennings. Holmgren said he feels preliminarily that Locklear will play.

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Locklear said that he is not limited physically, and it feels good to be back out on the field after a four-week break, but he said they have not told him exactly how much if any time he will get against the Rams.

Holmgren said that he thought Matt Hasselbeck looked pretty good in practice all week and has developed some chemistry with his rotating corps of receivers. Holmgren was not happy about the red zone offense today, but otherwise he said he thought they had practiced well all week.

Holmgren also could not have been happy about the number of drops in practice. Owen Schmitt had one, then gave the lake an earful. The folks on the other side may have heard it. Michael Bumpus had a drop, John Carlson had a drop and Deion Branch had a drop, after which he fell to the turf and lay there. You could almost feel everybody gasp, wondering if his knee was OK, but he popped up and ran back to the huddle.

Carlson also made an incredible catch. The ball was thrown wide and low, and Carlson adjusted his body and grabbed the pass one-handed as he fell to the ground. He earned many hoots from his teammates.

Patrick Kerney was wearing a cast on his right wrist; Holmgren said he sprained it. "We lead the league in casts," Holmgren said. Trufant and Lofa still are wearing theirs.

Categories: Notes from practice 39 comments

COMMENTS:

swab @ 14:57 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Thanks Koren for signing with the team with a bum knee. The guy hasnt played in months how could he possibly have a sore knee?
mikew177 @ 14:57 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
What no quotes from Taylor about being demoted? Just kidding Frank thanks for not giving us his insight on the matter. Glad he finally got moved down the depth chart.
pdway @ 15:03 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Feels good to hear about some of our guys getting healthy.

Got to, got to win this one, and all will seem much better going into the break week. Thankfully it's the Rams and not the Cowboys or something.
Dukeshire @ 15:05 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
He has arthritis in it. Nothing new.
moeflo @ 15:10 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Frank:

What's the meaning of this NONSENSE I hear that Julian Peterson is getting fined $7,500 dollars for his sack celebration?

Since when is it not ok to point to your last name on the back of your jersey?
BellevueMark @ 15:19 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Koren injured his knee on wednesday, his first day practicing. He must have pulled up suddenly because one of the reporters watching practice initially thought it was a hamstring.
HawkyHann @ 15:25 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
See ya Koren, cut him now, we need healthy WRs. Go get someone good, spend the cash!
am_misfit @ 15:32 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
I'm still very excited about the Koren signing.

Also, if Colbert is ascending this quickly, maybe he's shown something in practice that has separated himself from the others? What, exactly, has prompted the Colbert promotion other than Taylor's poor showings thus far?

halfemptyfilms @ 15:34 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
You dummies, it has nothing to do with signing with a bum knee or being unhealthy. You try running into a full NFL workout without soreness. Koren has not played in a year, no one is surprised to see a somewhat slow start.

Frank: If Koren can't start, which seems likely, does that mean Taylor gets re-promoted to starter? McMullen?
SupaFreak @ 15:58 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Koren has to work his way into game shape, and yes, it's known he can have a sore knee, he had surgery on that one over a year ago. It gets sore, but he can still play with it. However, they are smart not to push it, as getting into game shape takes time, no amount of just running and lifting can emulate what you do out there in practice, so I would think he's a 10 play a gamer this first week. After the bye, he may play more, as his body adjusts to the workload.
jmreid8 @ 16:00 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Finally someone points out the obvious thanks halfemptyfilms.

He's trying to be his old self, but he's not in shape enough to do that. Come on laying out in practice, it looks good, but save it for the games! Have you ever tried to get in shape over night, it doesn't work.. Six weeks minimum before the sorness goes away, but he should be able to play through it come game time, thats what adrenaline is for.
nighthawk2 @ 16:02 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
So Holmgren is a dummy then for saying Robinson was going to play Sunday and return kicks when he was signed?

Taylor is lucky he still has a roster spot. This guy sucks.
NickLicatasucks @ 16:04 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
I wonder who is starting opposite Colbert.

As for JP's fine- whatever, he can afford it. The Penalty was the hard part, as it gave the niners life. At least maybe now JP will stop that stupid "say my name" dance...how stupid and individualistic. Maybe he'll do something cool- like the funky chicken dance or just walk back to the huddle like a Old West Cowboy. The JP point and flex sucked.

I think the Hawks should start in the two TE set this week, with one WR and two backs. Run it down their throats!
tombstoney @ 16:05 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
All these knee injuries began after the Seahawks moved into their new practice facility in Renton. I am not a rocket scientist by any means, but maybe they should look at their turn in their new digs. Too many knee injuries in such a short timespan.
SupaFreak @ 16:15 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
This isn't a new knee injury tombstoney. He just gets a stiff knee from the surgery he had in 2007. It's not a big deal. He's not yet back in game shape, and the knee aches, so they are taking it easy on him. Most of us who have a brain expected he would not be our savior this week. He didn't attend a training camp, so hasn't even practiced vigorously since May. No surprise here.
rbuzby @ 16:39 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
The teams real problem is the defense. We saw last week they can patch together a decent offense, as long as Holmgren doesnt get too stupid and refuse to run the ball, like he did last week once they got inside the 30 a couple times. The defense has been a big let down this year. Sacks are nice, but irrelevant if you dont stop the scoring.
jammer @ 16:49 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
"Comment by HawkyHann @ 15:25 - Friday, September 19th, 2008
See ya Koren, cut him now, we need healthy WRs. Go get someone good, spend the cash!"


Yep, Ruskell will just run down to the WR store and get a brand new 1st round really good WR that no other teams wanted who will immediately start for us be a star and who has no injury concerns or start up delays. BTW this special and rare player who also must understand our complex offense would cost more than the available cap we have left.

Geez sometimes the posts around here are ridiculous.

JustaFan @ 16:52 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
rbuzby
"The teams real problem is the defense." Spot on comment. Not only did our corners not cover, they were flagged for interference multiple times. The loss to the Niners wasn't on the offense, or the front seven; it was the secondary.
dhardw @ 17:02 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
here here. The defense (or lack there of) is the real problem. This is not an elite unit and hasn't been for a while.

Very overrated in IMO
NickLicatasucks @ 17:04 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Defense needs to prove that they are good this weekend. I think they will.

I love SupaFreak's analysis. Spot on Supa!

It makes a ton of sense that Colbert is getting up to speed faster than Koren. He's at least ready to play football. Koren hasn't had the benefit of mini camps or a training camp! The Koren move was done for the season, not just a stop gap. Hopefully he'll be well enough to return the opening kickoff. Then he can be in for some four WR stuff. Hopefully we don't need to pass it around much...
chewy724 @ 17:14 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Koren Lovers (see SupaFreak and Dukeshire),

You two losers act as if you know Koren and his knee personally. What are you guys, the team doctors? More like the team clowns. Go crawl back into your rat holes. I'm sure you two idiots are the same guys that play Second Life until 3 AM and talk about all the girls your scored at the office the next day. You two Rock!

Pimping Koren each week and the rest of our incompentent receivers is not going save the passing game. Only one thing will save this sinking season: our pathetic 25th ranked Defense built by our pathetic GM. Step up Marshall and Mora. Were going down like the Titantic.
Dukeshire @ 17:49 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
chewy724,

WTF! I remember reading about his knee a couple years ago, before he had surgury. All I did was pass along that info. How you take from that I'm a "Koren lover" is beyond idiotic.
swab @ 17:53 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Peterson pointing at his name is getting old anyway, its like ok we get it Julian. Get the point. Makes him look foolish.
jmreid8 @ 18:05 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
chewy724

This is a blog.. people have the right to post their opinion. Those two blogs you refer to have 1000 times more class and usefulness than your kindergarden nonsense and I would rather read them anyday, maybe you should start your own blog for people with no class or better yet jump on a band wagon with another team that you can riddicule like the raiders.

Go Seahawks!!!
JoshManRock @ 18:30 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Chewy724, why do you try to bring people down by calling them stupid, idiots, rats, and saying that they play Second Life till 3 AM(what the hell is that btw?)? Do you know these people personally or are you making stuff up because you don't have anything smart to say? Sounds like the latter and not the former.

I don't have a problem with disagreements and I personally like a good argument. Talking CRAP about people distracts from your point. The comments are about football opinions and not putting people down.

Ok, now that I'm off my soap box, we need to ditch the 3rd down Zone defense. We give up WAY to many 3rd and long plays last year and it doesn't look like we made any progress.

Does anybody know why we wouldn't play Man-to-Man on 3rd and long instead of zone? If we have been more efficient playing Man, what is the benefit of zone on 3rd? Thanks.
hawkron @ 19:12 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
The drops have to stop.

With our depleted receiving corps, the Hawks have to make the most of each opportunity, to even have a chance, and the drops just kill both momentum and yardage.
In this offense, we frequently run plays that look like one thing, only to set up something else. Dropping the ball kills all that was set up. IMO.

I, know it's only practice, but still....
IDHawkman @ 19:23 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
JP didn't get fined because he pointed at his name, he got it because after the sack he hovered over JT and yelled something at him. That's a flag every single time and it quite possibly cost us the game since it would have made the 9ers punt.

It was bush league at best and idiotic on JP's part. You would think that he could use a little bit of brains when he is out there. I'm also getting tired of watching him come racing into a totally blind QB just to have the QB take a step and get away from him. And you allwonder why Marshall don't like to call him for blitzing on 3rd downs? He can't make a tackle most of the time.
Heifitz @ 20:17 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
IDHawkman,

Actually, the next play after that was Frank Gore's fumble which was returned for a TD by Terrill (excuse my spelling). Didn't end up costing us anything, and for my money the call, be it for yelling or pointing at his back, is stupid, never mind the $7500 fine. Hit and runs involving pedestrians are not punishable (see: Marshawn Lynch), but celebration with a little intimidation thrown in isn't? Ridiculous...
Heifitz @ 20:19 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Oops... should say "is".
hawks4372 @ 20:19 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Gee, who would have thought drafting a 85 lb. cornerback in the first round of a draft wouldn't work out? Or a 2'7" corner in the 2nd round? I wonder why wide receivers from that cradle of progressive football, Auburn, are terrible? I can't believe a slow, unathletic, white safety would turn out to be a complete stiff. So letting a very good, young linebacker like Hill walk is going to make this team better, right? I agree with Ruskell- you just don't win with "knuckleheads".

Dallas 2-0
Seattle 0-2

How fitting that a garbageman will raise the 12th man flag.
klm008 @ 21:46 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Ditto Heifitz. The only ref worse than Jerome Booger is the vile, disgusting, evil, corrupt, filth Bill Leavy of SB XL infamy.
klm008 @ 21:49 - Friday, September 19th, 2008 Email
Percentage of money on St. Louis: 58% (32,000 bets).
If the refs win this game for the Rams, we need mob justice for them. Bring back glass beer bottles to the stadiums! Either that or bonji-cord larriets to catch them by the neck as they go to leave by the tunnel.
moo @ 00:15 - Saturday, September 20th, 2008 Email
Curse of the Seahawks, injred receivers..............
nighthawk2 @ 01:25 - Saturday, September 20th, 2008 Email
"I can't believe a slow, unathletic, white safety would turn out to be a complete stiff."

Again with the racist stereotypes. You work for "Field Gulls" too?
eclafitz @ 04:41 - Saturday, September 20th, 2008 Email
This poor blog is devolving.
thedude @ 11:01 - Saturday, September 20th, 2008
yeah, this blog is going downhill quickly.

i just wonder last year, when our defense was playing really well with the SAME players, were the D Bags above bitching about how bad the draft picks/players were? or were they bitching about something else?

this is on the coaches, the schemes and the conservatism of john marshall on third down. this look reminds me of 2 years ago when st louis scored 17 points in 7 minutes and beat us in the 4th.

we need to get more aggressive and not so vanilla on D...
Stevo @ 11:20 - Saturday, September 20th, 2008 Email
Koren got a sore knee after his first day of training camp. No surprise. Stop panicing.

Our D will be fine. Stop panicing.

T.J. O'Whats-his-name played the game of his life and the 49ers got some calls gifted their their way. Yes, our DBs had a bad game, Grant and Russel blew a few plays, Jennings played with a broken rib, Trufant with a broken hand, Lofa with a bum knee... these guys will pull it together and stop the Rams. If not, I'll eat my jersey.

The problem with the first two games was crappy special teams in both games, crappy WR play in both games, and crappy O-line play in game 1.

But in game 2, they fixed the O-line play and showed the best Run Offense we've seen in two years. Wahle, Pork Chop, and Julius Jones all kicked butt. We also saw the best TE performance in years.

This week, the D will be fine, and our running game will perform. As long as Matt can complete some passes on key downs, and the special teams can stop the mistakes, we will pound the Rams into submission.

The real test is after disposing of the Rams. We need to get Bobby Engram and Koren Robinson healthy during the bye week and travel to NY and beat the Giants. I'm serious. If we get Engram and KRob going, we will go to NY and beat the Giants. That's the win we need to turn this season around!
Gandalf @ 14:12 - Saturday, September 20th, 2008 Email
People are betting on the Rams to win because the point spread is a ridiculous 9.5 points. Our offense is having enough trouble generating points. If I was a betting person, I'd take the rams myself. We'll win the game, but not by 10.

thedude @ 15:24 - Saturday, September 20th, 2008
not with holmy's conservative play calling...

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