The biggest eye-opener that came out of the postgame is that Mike Holmgren seemed somewhat pessimistic about Matt Hasselbeck coming back any time soon. He said Hasselbeck will have to get more exams on his hyperextended knee this week because it does not seem to be responding the way it should be responding to treatment. He said Hass was never even an option today. While saying Charlie Frye played "OK," he immediately said that Seneca should be getting better each day and has a chance to take the reps with the first team this week.

More than anything, Holmgren has turned philosophical as his team has fallen 2 1/2 games behind the Arizona Cardinals in the NFC West. He said he told the players something he has told them in the past, but it is very important they listen: They are not used to this losing, but this is a test of their character and it will show a great deal about who they are by how they respond to this tough situation.

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Another telling quote: "We just don't have the bullets right now. We have some, but not enough." The answer was in response to a question about the wide receivers doing basically nothing, their starting wideouts combining for two catches -- both by Koren Robinson in the first quarter.

Holmgren talked about wanting to stick with the run game, but feeling like they weren't getting enough, which meant they were constantly in third and long, and then they couldn't convert third downs, which means they keep giving back the ball.

Mike Wahle said he would block the same way on the holding call that called back Julius Jones' long gain if he had to do it all over again. He said Green Bay does a good job of begging for the holding call if they are not able to make a tackle, which I think means they flop to make it look like holding. He said when things aren't going your way, that's the kind of call that goes against you.

Leroy Hill said he thought they stopped Aaron Rodgers, and he may not have gone down but that is what goal line is. They stopped his momentum. As Hill was on his way out of the locker room, he walked past Lofa Tatupu's locker, where a group of reporters were talking to Lofa, and yelled, "We're going to get this thing turned around Lofa."

Charlie Frye said he thought he played average. He did some good things and he did some bad things to offset those good things. He said on that last long run, he told himself there was no way he was going to slide. He was trying to get to the end zone and sometimes you have to try to make valiant plays. Of third down conversions, he said it just seems like they can't get that one that gives them the confidence to get over the hump.

MArcus Trufant said he was accountable for the TD pass to Greg Jennings. He knew he had single coverage and he just didn't make the play. Lofa said the front seven hung Trufant out to dry. He said if they are going to max rush like that, then somebody has to get home and nobody did. Lofa said he was picked up by a guard and should easily beat him but didn't.

Injuries: Holmgren said Deon Grant strained a ligament in his knee, but Grant said he was fine and didn't say anything about a ligament. Patrick Kerney suffered a stinger and Will Heller injured his knee on the fourth-quarter onside kick.