Eric D. Williams took over the Seahawks beat and Seahawks Insider blog in December. Williams has covered the Seahawks, Sonics and high school sports for The News Tribune since joining the paper in 2006. Eric lives in Tacoma with his wife and two children.
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The biggest eye-opener that came out of the postgame is that Mike Holmgren seemed somewhat pessimistic about Matt Hasselbeck coming back any time soon. He said Hasselbeck will have to get more exams on his hyperextended knee this week because it does not seem to be responding the way it should be responding to treatment. He said Hass was never even an option today. While saying Charlie Frye played "OK," he immediately said that Seneca should be getting better each day and has a chance to take the reps with the first team this week.
More than anything, Holmgren has turned philosophical as his team has fallen 2 1/2 games behind the Arizona Cardinals in the NFC West. He said he told the players something he has told them in the past, but it is very important they listen: They are not used to this losing, but this is a test of their character and it will show a great deal about who they are by how they respond to this tough situation.
Another telling quote: "We just don't have the bullets right now. We have some, but not enough." The answer was in response to a question about the wide receivers doing basically nothing, their starting wideouts combining for two catches -- both by Koren Robinson in the first quarter.
Holmgren talked about wanting to stick with the run game, but feeling like they weren't getting enough, which meant they were constantly in third and long, and then they couldn't convert third downs, which means they keep giving back the ball.
Mike Wahle said he would block the same way on the holding call that called back Julius Jones' long gain if he had to do it all over again. He said Green Bay does a good job of begging for the holding call if they are not able to make a tackle, which I think means they flop to make it look like holding. He said when things aren't going your way, that's the kind of call that goes against you.
Leroy Hill said he thought they stopped Aaron Rodgers, and he may not have gone down but that is what goal line is. They stopped his momentum. As Hill was on his way out of the locker room, he walked past Lofa Tatupu's locker, where a group of reporters were talking to Lofa, and yelled, "We're going to get this thing turned around Lofa."
Charlie Frye said he thought he played average. He did some good things and he did some bad things to offset those good things. He said on that last long run, he told himself there was no way he was going to slide. He was trying to get to the end zone and sometimes you have to try to make valiant plays. Of third down conversions, he said it just seems like they can't get that one that gives them the confidence to get over the hump.
MArcus Trufant said he was accountable for the TD pass to Greg Jennings. He knew he had single coverage and he just didn't make the play. Lofa said the front seven hung Trufant out to dry. He said if they are going to max rush like that, then somebody has to get home and nobody did. Lofa said he was picked up by a guard and should easily beat him but didn't.
Injuries: Holmgren said Deon Grant strained a ligament in his knee, but Grant said he was fine and didn't say anything about a ligament. Patrick Kerney suffered a stinger and Will Heller injured his knee on the fourth-quarter onside kick.
COMMENTS:
I thought you were an Offensive guru Mike, but your unimaginative and overly conservative play calling and playbook were sandlot.
I thought our D played very well considering they had no offensive help. NONE.
I suddenly became more interested in college football and can't wait for a top 10 draft pick!
Not that any of this is Holmgren's fault, but the team seems to have stopped responding to him, and certain problems on defense are beyond his control anyway (at least for the remainder of Holmgren's term.) Thus, if decisions need to be made to develop the team for future seasons (after giving up on this one) then Mora may as well make those decisions with Holmgren consulting. At least they'll know their future coach is in full charge.
However, I think Holmgren has too much pride and character to give up in the middle of the season, so it's unlikely.
Yes, I did dump whiskey on a cheese head sitting in front of me today...I did my best.
If Holmgren had thrown a lot, and the score was the same, all the "fans" would have yelled at him for not "running the ball more." As it was, Frye was picked twice, so how close would the score have been if he had been picked 3 or 4 times, or fumbled after getting sacked? Frye didn't have the pocket presence to get rid of the ball quickly, and took a couple sacks a veteran might have avoided.
The plan might have worked if the defense hadn't completely collapsed in the 2nd half, and had even an average pass rush. I wouldn't even bother blitzing anymore - send 4,5 or 6, the result is the same. Just drop 7 back into coverage, the results can't be worse.
Even the one sack that occured was mainly because of decent coverage and the QB holding the ball too long. The D did get the turnover though to their credit.
God, he looked depressed sitting on the sidelines. I was depressed watching the game.
Maybe this year will be a kick in the pants to an organization that has started to coast and next year they will come back hungry and strong.
I have little to give me joy in my life other than my family (which granted is a big thing, but really, we need diversions).
My job is nothing but stress, the Seahawks suck, the Mariners are beyond suckage, the Huskies should start playing high school teams to see if they can get a win, and we have two unbelievable horrid choices for the presidential election.
Please keep the politics off this board. And by all accounts, this is one of the best elections in more than a decade. There are two good candidates on the table. Or, from my vantage point, one. But a lot better than the last 12 years.
"well, we'll have to look at the film..."
"we're not panicking"
"we just need to play better"
"maybe this loss will motivate our guys next week"
TBay is going to kill us.
SF game is a toss up.
Philly is going to beat us
Miami is going to beat us (East coast game)
Arizona is going to beat us at home
Washington is going to beat us
Dallas is going to KILL us
We might beat New England
We'll beat the Rams
The Jets will beat us
We might beat Arizona at home
That's 4 or 5 wins this year. Suck.
On offense Seattle needs to realize that they are a better running team than passing team and they need to replace Locklear with Willis and run the ball more.
Sad swan song for Holmgren.
That settles it. You are completely insane.
the offense was "okay", but with the way the defense has played this year they can't win with an "okay" offense... they need to control the ball and outscore their opponents.
they've had plenty of injuries on the offensive side, but the reason they are 1-4 is simply because their defense has not stopped anyone. while they did a decent job holding grant in check, rodgers was 21/30 for 208yds, 2 tds and 0 int, and the packers converted nearly 60% of their third downs.
gripe about the offense, but the defense has collapsed...
Mike Holmgren last week should of have fired John Marshall and this week he should now. The Defensive plays the guy calling has not many effect on the other team and if everyone playing like lame duck because holmgren last season than wave the white flag as this is BS.
We are so overrated. as a matter of fact that is what opposing scouts say about us. Go read about it in the GB papers where they interviewed NFL scouts who have played the hawks.
They could have given the offense more help today!! They gave up 3rd and 7, 3rd and 9, 3rd and 6, and 3rd and 9 again. Just like we have for years!! Good defenses don't consistantly let that happen!! WE have NO Difference makers on defense - NONE.
Now today we also didn't get any help from the Zebras. I love how things are just ignored. On the first punt, that may or may not have hit the GB dude, BUT there was clearly holding. The guys was ripping the jersey off of our player.
On the Long pass play where Russell didn't get to the QB. When He went to jump for the ball the OL guy was dragging him down by the shoulder pads. (holding)
We get called for a block in the back, then on the next punt our guy is shoved right in front of the umpire - 2 hand right to the back. No call. Holmgren got right in the guys face and the ump started chirping right back.
On the next GB TD. Rogers rolls out with rocky chasing, until the OL guys grabs his facemask and pushes his head all the way back, Right in front of the Referee. No call.
It seems like the officials like to stick it to Holmgren. He calls them on the carpet for bad/missed calls and suprize the calls are start going the other way.
BTW - was it actually holding on Wahle? Couldn't tell one way or the other on the stadium replay
The penalty on Trufant for illegal contract, the flag was thrown well after the QB was passed the line of scrimmage. therefore no penalty, it was then a run play.
The 2nd Int by Frye, was made AFTER the DB cleared out the WR then turned to make the catch. WE have been called for PI on that in the past. (this normally wouldn't bother me except for all the others)
Frye did fine.
He threw for 2 td's. Same number that Hasselbeck had all season.
Plus his qb rating is in the 50's, just like Matt.
Depending on the injury situation with Hasselback, could be that Frye is the Seahawks QB of the future.
Go Charlie!!
Green Bay's DB's were playing us for the short pass only the whole day. If that Woodsen interception route was a pump fake, stop and go, Koren would have had an easy touchdown.
Why can I see that and no one in the Seahawks coaches box sees it? Are they afraid to send Holmgren information that will disrupt his overall offensive "scheme"?
You have to take what the other team is giving you and REACT to it.
chitwit, Very good point. This is a very good site. Although nighthawk2 claims to want to be the board monitor, and stop people from saying what they want.
Apparently has nothing better to do.
Also claims to have "reported him" (that would be me) several times.
Reported me to who?
This is an open forum, you dope.
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