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With the Seahawks not allowing us to speak to their team doctors about their players' injuries -- heck, the players themselves are reticent to talk about their own injuries -- I went to an outside source for some information, Dr. James Gladstone, the co-chief of sports medicine at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City, who happened to go to school with Dr. James Andrews, the doctor who did the surgery on the knees of Deion Branch and Nate Burleson.
When I explained what was going on with Hasselbeck, Gladstone said that it seems very unlikely that Hasselbeck's knee injury in any way had an affect on his back. My own theory was that Hasselbeck hurt the knee, compensated for it by walking abnormally, which caused the bulging disc in the back to act up. Gladstone said that doesn't sound plausible. He said something else may have caused the disc problem but it was not likely the injured knee. Or, Hass may have had the bulging disc all along and only now, because of the knee injury, is he seeing or feeling the additional effects.
He disagreed with Hasselbeck's and Holmgren's percentages of people with a bulging disc. Hass said he was told 85 percent of people have bulging discs. Holmgren said everybody. Gladstone said 40 percent of people walking around have bulging discs. "But it doesn't mean anything unless it is pushing on a nerve," Gladstone said.
He said that from Holmgren's description of what is going on -- the bulging disc is creating weakness in the leg -- it sounds like the L2 or L3 disc is pressing on a nerve root and making Hasselbeck's quadriceps muscle weak. That would impede Hasselbeck's ability to plant or push off on his leg.
ESPN initially reported that Hasselbeck got an injection to treat the back injury. Gladstone said that was more likely a cortisone shot, a powerful anti-inflammatory. Holmgren said on Monday he did not know if Hasselbeck would get additional shots, but that he thought you could only get so many shots in a certain amount of time. Gladstone said cortisone shots generally come in sets of 3, so if the August shot that Hasselbeck received was the only one he got, he could another immediately. We don't know how many shots he has had.
The big question, of course, is whether this is career threatening or something that will plague Hasselbeck the rest of his career. Gladstone said no, as long as the disc is not herniated, the symptoms can disappear either on their own or through physical therapy and possibly be gone for good. "A lot settle down on their own," Gladstone said. "The question is whether they settle down in two weeks or in four to six months."
I also asked Gladstone about Deion Branch's heel injury, and whether that was possibly created by Branch maybe coming back too early from his ACL surgery. He said that Branch may have come back a little early, but his knee and leg should be structurally sound so the timing sounds about right. And he also said that the heel likely had nothing to do with the knee. "Sounds to me like he was just unlucky," Gladstone said.
COMMENTS:
Seneca is not the answer (move him to WR). Charlie Frye is terrible. Ruskell, spend the first round pick (top 5 probably) on a QB. Tim Tebow anybody?
If you stepped on some toes to gather this information (that, perhaps, the 'Hawks don't want known), who cares. Good job. Thank you for the read.
Any word on when we may be getting Branch back? Any chance we could see Matt throwing to Branch against San Fran? It would be nice to see a game where Matt was our QB and he could choose from Branch, KoRo, or Engram in the passing game. Not to mention having Carlson!
I wonder if there's any way we can get lucky and win. And then if we could have Matt, Branch, Bobby, and KoRo for San Fran --- perhaps there's a chance???
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I would take Stafford or Bradford over Tebow. But Tebow is projected as a 1st rdr. But if we are talking top 5 pick. Well, I think I would take Oher, Mays or Crabtree over any QB.
I'm sure you play QB in the NFL, right? You must know what its like to get hit by 300 lbs DT's. Thanks for the analysis.
When you say "go left", is that where you go to grab a beer? Go easy big man. Don't aggrevate that disk when you do your 12 ounce curls.
I know you are all gonna jump my ish for saying that but my argument is we have not had a true number one since brian blades. (last pro bowl WR)
Wouldnt that send a message that wernt punting on the Walrus's last season?
If Hass came back with Roy WIlliams, Bobby Engram and Branch.........Bet the farm Hass would be happy!!
maybe the problem is more than we see. Like the DEFENSE!!!! Ill take your comments off the Air...
as a family member of the 'Hawks (Largent is my 2nd cousin.), i truly want nothing but the best for our team. so far, this season has been a bust. but i think we can turn it around and make a decent run for our division title and for the playoffs. call me crazy, but i still believe.
There are other back injuries that can cause similar symptoms in the leg, hopefully he's actually got one of those.
How do I know this? I'm a chiropractor.
In my opinion - no. Dallas is set up to win now or in the next 2/3 seasons at most. They are were 'the hawks were back in 2004/05 - on the verge. Right now, the 'hawks are looking at a rebuilding process for the next couple of seasons - trading away high draft picks [Dallas gave up it's first, third and sixth picks in next year's draft for Williams] for a veteran wideout is not the way to do that.
I've said it before [and I'll say it again]... this team has a solid core of good, young players and the rebuilding of the team should not take very long - but it depends upon making the right decisions on player personnel [talent evaluation] and timing [of player transactions]. Personnaly, I think that we should trade Hasselback in the offseason to a team like the Vikings - we may get a first rounder in the following year's draft [2010] for him. Other trade possibilities are Peterson, Trufant & Morris - but we might only get a 3rd rounder for Peterson, no one else may be willing to pay Trufant's contract and Morris may have very little value. Another possibility - trade our likely top-5 pick in the draft to a team looking for an impact player and trade down for a lower 1st round pick and a couple of lower round selections [e.g. 2nd or 3rd and 4th].
Quarterback is the most difficult situation to fill - but rather than go with a rookie, I'd prefer to identify a young guy with high potential but limited NFL experience who might be a safer option [like we did a few years back by getting a certain back-up QB from Green Bay....]. Personally, I'm very high on Brady Quinn but I realise that's unlikely to happen.
If the Hawks end up with a TOP 5 draft pick, these are currently very difficult to trade, because of what teamss have to pay a TOP 5 draft pick.
For this reason, no TOP 5 pick has been traded in several years. The Dolphins tried to trade the #1 pick last year, and ended up having to use it, draft Jake Long, and pay him $11M+ per season for 5 years, BEFORE he every played in the NFL.
Tebow is an athletic QB being coach in Urban Meyer's system.
anyone else remember that other quarterback who flourished in Urban's system? That athletic QB who was drafted really high and was supposed to be awesome? Anyone remember that guy?
oh yeah...I remember...Alex Smith.
I'll pass on Tebow.
Safety is another position where I think the Hawks can add talent. First round is always a spot where the team needs to take "best available" players and go from there.
Carlson looks good for sure. I also like Lo-Jack, I just hope he gets better. He hasn't been an impact guy so far- as I can see.
Frank- great reporting on the injury stuff. This is good to hear. Hopefully Branch can suck it up and Hass can get back. If he cannot- fingers crossed for Seneca. That guy is a threat.
Is it just me- or is Chase Daniel reminding anyone of another "too short" stocky QB from a spread offense?
...Drew Brees. Reminds me of him. Wouldn't spend a first on him, but he's worth having around at some price.
I see at least two more good years from him -- and we have too many other needs to pick a QB early this year.
Next year feels right to try and snag a QB to me. I'd go WR and Safety at the top of this draft (of course it never hurts to pick one low in the draft if you think you've found someone you can develop).
1st Round.
Malcolm Jenkins 6'0" 195 lbs, CB Ohio State
OR
William Moore 6'0" 228 lbs, S MISSOURI
Second Round
Derrick Williams 6'0" 200 lbs, WR Penn State
Third Round
Saftey or CB (depending on the 1st round pick)
1.Sign F.A. Cornerback-prefer to be 6 feet or taller(move Jennings and Wilson for nickel and dime packages).
2.Sign veteran QB to back-up Matt in 2009. Charlie will be 3rd string. Move Seneca to WR (not sure if free agent this year.,if so could sign him on the cheap)
3.Sign Linebacker L.Hill
4.Sign K.Robinson
5.Keep Mare
2009 draft
1. D.Tackle or O.Tackle(prefer Left)
2. O.Linebacker(future replacement for J.Petersen)
3. W.R. 6-2 or taller please)
4. Running back(keep J.Jones and Duckett trade M.Morris-4th round if lucky probably 5th)forsett 3rd string and or returner.
5. O-line back ups
6. Punter or doesnt matter after that just special teams fodder.
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