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I covered the news conference today in Seattle announcing that KIRO, which has partnerships with both the Seahawks and the Mariners, is going to an all-sports format on April 1, competing directly with KJR. Their launch is meant to coincide directly with the start of baseball season.
The above photo includes Chuck Armstrong at the far left, KIRO GM and VP Dave Pridemore, KIRO VP/market manager Carl Gardner and Seahawks CEO Tod Leiweke.
KIRO is becoming an ESPN station, which for all intents and purposes means that KJR no longer is able to air ESPN material. What this means for John Clayton I am not sure. When I reached him at home, he did not want to comment. He has had his Sports Saturday show for almost two decades and is very proud of what he has been able to develop. KJR program director Rich Moore said he thinks Clayton will stay with KJR. "John is a very big part of our radio station, and we want him to continue that tradition. We anticipate that he will be able to do that."
KIRO has not announced what shows it is going to do or what talent it is going to hire, saying only that they are going to build more shows around the Seahawks and Mariners, obviously, but also do its fair share of local programming. They will hire a program director over the next few weeks and then start zeroing in on hosts and co-hosts.
Carl Gardner was pretty clear that KIRO, owned by Bonneville, a Mormon-owned company, is going to have a different flavor than some of the KJR shows, particularly Mitch's morning show, which sometimes focuses on women. "Bonneville has a high standard," Gardner said. "Our view is you can be entertaining and funny without being blue."
COMMENTS:
I don't know - I think that's an overstated part of Mitch's show, except at Bigger Dance time. Then again, I don't get to listen to his entire 6-10 show, every day. I think Mitch is fantastic - his Neuheisel interview was superb.
Also, I'll be shocked if D-Locke doesn't end up at KIRO.
I seriously hope that David Locke and NY Vinnie ARE the mainstays of their programming so that I don't feel at all conflicted about continuing to listen to KJR. Maybe they'll get the Fabulous Sports Babe back, too.
There is no doubt that he is a superb interviewer. The Best in the biz I think. But some of the stuff that KJR puts on his show are considered by many to be distasteful and disrespectful. A sports station needs to talk about sports.
However, he is not the problem at KJR. Softy, Gas, and Groz are intoxicating. When their lips move, nothing but a bunch of garbage comes out. By far Softy is the worse of them all. Unless when he is with guests like Clayton and Millen, it is all hogwash. Most of his audience probably are your friends, DDP1983. They have, at best, a 2nd grade education.
I think they are all fine. Softy can be whiney - Groz hardly ever works - I wish I had his schedule!! Elise at night is developing a great show that is fun to listen too!
Bring in competition - it will give even more attention to our teams. and give everyone options. listen to the national stuff or the local stuff- the choice is yours!
Second of all, yeah I listen to Mitch just about everyday while I'm at work. Yes I know about the bigger dance and Sue Bird, big freaking deal. Does the mention of women scare you or make you nervous? Just beecause you mention women on your show periodically does not make that the "focus of your show" as Frank Hughes reported. If that were the case you mentioned 2nd graders in your reply so your post most be focused on grade schoolers, right? You do realize these guys are entertainers correct? They are not there to read the freakin sports page to your boring a$$? If all I wanted was stats spouted off to me I can look up the boxscore's. You see us 2nd graders know how to read the newspaper.
Before I shifted my schedule up an hour, I tended to switch between KRKO and KJR in the morning... some mornings I really detested the junk on the KJR show... some of it was over the top and effectively abusive towards the female traffic person...
It'll be interesting to see what KIRO does... possibly they're working towards getting away from the doom and gloom of the current afternoon show.
First of all, sports in themselves is a form of entertainment. A sports host can be entertaining just by talking about sports. ESPN doesn't talk about women in similar light but, yet, people are glued to them 24 hours a day. I have moved around a bit, and exposed to different sports stations in Los Angeles, Chicago, St. Louis, and New York. All they talk about is sports. They talked about the home teams, and other teams around the league. It is all about sports and yet it is fun.
Howard Stern talks about women in every show all year long, and nobody complains about it. Why? It is because it appropriate content for that type of show. If it is a sports station, then talk about sports. As you can see in this blog, there are a lot of people who share my sentiments. If you want women stuff, good for you. I am not criticizing you for listening to the Bigger Dance. I already had enough of that stuff in HS and college. I don't have to fantasize about that stuff. It is boring to me.
My point is that Frank wasn't wrong in characterizing Mitch's show. If Mitch doesn't spend a huge part of his show talking about women, then you can criticize Frank for misreporting. It is so embarrassing for people like you who use big words like "irresponsible journalism" when you are don't even have a clue what it means. Let me explain to you. A responsible journalist is someone who reports the facts, whether they are good or bad. Frank did just that in this case. An irresponsible journalist is someone who is biased and only tells you what he wants you to know, or what you like to hear. He is so biased that he is blinded to the facts. Although you are not a reporter, you happen to fall in that category of people who move through this world with blinders on.
To further support my point if you go read the article it has been edited to say "Sometimes focuses on women." So thank you Frank, I think you are correct Mitch's show does "sometimes" focus on women. LeroyHill put that in your pipe and smoke it buddy.
If you accuse somebody of being an "irresponsible journalist", you have to explain why. To do that, you must prove that focusing on women is not part of the show that Mitch does. You can't because it is a fact. that Bigger Dance happens.
The point of that report was to explain that there are pockets of audiences out there who are smart enough to not allow themselves to be exploited by those low-class sex gimmics. For these people, KIRO offers an alternative for them.
Let me explain to you why Frank is a responsible journalist on three accounts. His
reporting of KIRO switching to a sports station is accurate. He didn't make up that story. He reported that women is big focus of Mitch's show, i.e is Bigger dance. This is true as well. Frank indirectly suggests that there are people who are not happy with KJR when they do the Bigger Dance and stuff like that. I am one of them. His report was correct on all accounts.
Alhtough he might have left out a word or there, the main points of the report were accurate. As a FREE reader of this blog, you should cut the guy some slack.
There's a lot of deadlines that a reporter has to follow. Watch practice, interview people, work their sources, write the stories for the next day, and, on top of that, blog the news stories as fast as they break. They work long hours. There is a lot of work and so sometimes a small typo here and there is expected. So put your brains to work a little bit, and try to capture the main points. After all, we didn't have to pay a cent to enjoy someone's fruit of labor.
You sound like you are knowledgeable about the media. You claim to read the newspaper. Then you should know about the struggles that the print media is facing. Reporters are in a tough situation. Think twice before you slam these hardworking people like them with incredibly offensive words like "irresponsible reporter". I'm not a reporter. I don't even personally know a journalist.
I quoted a small portion of a large article that I felt was irresponsible journalism. Someone who had never listened to Mitch's morning show after reading that article would think the main focus of Mitch's show was "focused on women". Which could mean he talks about women's health, women's relationships, etc. who knows? I thought this was irresponsible. I pointed it out, no big deal.
Apparently Frank felt he portrayed the WRONG picture of Mitch's show as well and fixed it. Which was the right thing to do.
One or two words here or there can mean a lot, just ask Don Imus. While this isn't nearly the same degree it was inaccurate and portrayed a bad picture.
Anyways back to topic, I think its good for Seattle to have another choice for their sports radio. I was listening to Ian today and he was saying that he had never worked in a market that only had one local sports radio show, and he's worked in Portalnd and Salt Lake City which are both much smaller markets. More competition will produce a better product on both ends, so welcome 710 ESPN!
But the typo was an omission of the word "sometimes". I don't think you were wrong to correct him. People make mistakes. But don't hang the guy by labeling him as an "irresponsible journalism". It is equivalent to calling a fullback's blocking style as finesse. He is responsible enough to fix his mistakes upon suggestion. and that deserves respect. I don't think you really comprehend how mean-spirited your comments are.
I hope you feel bad about what you said to him. If you truly appreciate what he does, you should apologize to him. Stop using words irresponsibly.
Mitch doesn't "focus on women". If you want to use the bigger dance as an example, that's one hour, for a couple weeks, maybe 20 hours MAX for an entire year of broadcasts. The only thing about the bigger dance is that it's not really sports related, other than glomming onto the NCAA tournament.
Big deal.
Most hosts take breaks from sports - Groz and Gas has charity drives, voice mails, in the news, and other topics that either have nothing to do with sports, or are related only marginally. Just one example. Mitch's show is in the prime drive time slot, the time slot that is generally the showcase slot for radio. Music stations don't even usually play music during that time period, it's generally talk radio (see Bob Rivers & Company on KZOK as an example). That time slot is to entertain commuters. If entertaining means dipping into the male chauvanistic pool once in a while, big deal. It's the highest radio show on KJR so it must be working.
I agree, Mitch does spend a bit more time than other hosts discussing subjects other than sports, but all radio stations do similar things with their morning commute time slots. They have to, it's called getting ratings.
As far as KIRO, good for them, competition is a healthy thing. Just don't expect David Locke to come back, he's got a great gig in Utah - and since the Sonics left town there's little reason for David to come back as he was predominately a basketball guy. I do think the Groz should jump ship, ever since his hours were cut he's been screwed over by the station, unjustifiably in my opinion. The gas man spends WAAAYYY too much time being a suck up to the players and management of the local teams. Softy is too much of a homer and Ian is a friggin coug.
Someone on here said that they hoped Locke and NY Vinnie would anchor the new station, with hopes of bringing the Sports Pig back - renew my XM subscription for another year, please. Maybe they can also have a three hour segment where they just run nails down chalkboards?
NY Vinnie was horrid! Hey, here's an idea, how about three hours of old-timey baseball music? Yeah, great idea, Vinster. He's even worse now that we've had to see him on TV. C'mon, man, stay off the tube, just too many things about you that scream "MADE FOR RADIO!!!"
Mitch? Eh. Who cares? He's like the little nephew trying to get your attention at a family gathering. All his controversial crap is tame and he at least gets out of the way of people that actually know sports. He's a personality that could probably do the same level of work on any station format.
Honestly, KJR has been monopolizing the market in Sports radio, when it comes to sports talk. Now listeners have a local and a national view of sports. So, it is a great idea to have this kind of competition.
The bigger dance is always fun, if you're a man, you have to love it.
Why is is that Mitch, the one who is a "personality" and more of an entertainer than a real sports guy (I don't disagree with you) normally is the MOST accurate with his assessments and predictions.
For example, Mitch was the only one on KJR who thought that the Sonics would likely be able to move to OKC quickly. He was also the only one that thought that the Seahawks were closer to average than a Super Bowl team.
Why is this?
Get off the high horses. Competition is great. For those of us with XM radio, I've already had ESPN radio and KJR to listen to. When Mitch is boring me, I jump over and listen to Colin. And vice versa.
Big deal.
But I will praise him on 2 things:
1) He is a great interviewer. One of the best. He's extremely professional. In all these years of doing the Daily Schnoz, I've never heard him speak ill of a guest, even when many of them where morons.
2) He defers to people that know more about sports than he does.
I think #2 is why he's been very accurate with his predictions over the years. He listens to people when they talk, and he can analyze what they are saying and use it later on.
Very few of the blowhards on ESPN do this. Colin Cowherd is maybe the most arrogant man on radio. Mike and Mike are buffoons. Many of the rest are former athletes who talk out of their backsides.
Could you imagine Softy doing Top 40 radio? He would get into a three day bend about how 50-Cent sucked and how great Justin Timberlake was. Mitch would just interview both, interview others, and go with the consensus. (Man, Softy would take it so far that 50-Cent would do a drive by on him, or whatever it is these kids are doing nowadays.)
If Mitch were on XM, I'd probably listen every once in a while.
I agree with you. Mitch tends to defer to the experts, or at least follow them.
If you remember the Sonics/City of Seattle trial, Mitch had ESPN Legal Analyst Roger Cossack on more than once. Cossack was saying that their was little chance that the City could make the Sonics stay in Seattle, if they really wanted to leave.
Mitch pretty much repeated what Cossack said, and it turned out to be correct. At the same time, Mitch avoided the trips to City Hall, screaming on sidewalks, Mayor bashing, or other cheerleading efforts.
Also I agree that Groz should grab a job with KIRO after being dissed by KJR.
I don't want to get too far off the subject, but I don't remember Cossack saying that at all about the Sonics. I recall him saying that the City of Seattle had a good case against the team's applying for relocation to OKC.
Now if I'm wrong, and Cossack actually said what you claim, then my apologies. (There were other legal analysts who said the City would win the trial, or afterwards, would HAVE won the trial, so perhaps I'm thinking of someone other than Cossack.)
Regardless, I disagree with you in a couple of respects: First, I don't think we can conclude that Cossack was correct in his prediction. I don't think we can conclude that he was necessarily wrong either, but let's not give him credit for a result (i.e. the Sonics departure) that had less to due with legal issues than it it did with the City of Seattle and its stupid decision to sell out its fans and 41 years of history. The City caved, Bennett got to move, and the fans got screwed. That doesn't mean the Sonics had a case. I think David Stern and the NBA threatened the City of Seattle behind closed doors, and the City lost its backbone.
Second, let's not give Mitch too much credit either. While he may not have been as vocal as Softy (which, I commend Softy for at least trying to do something productive and positive), Mitch certainly didn't just "defer to the experts" and raise the white flag. I don't recall ever hearing Mitch say something to the effect of: "Well, Cossack says the Sonics are gonna win, so let's all just all throw in the towel and say good-bye to the Sonics."
Anyway, no offense to you or anyone else, but I refuse to believe that the Sonics departure happened because Bennett was within his legal right to relocate the team. It happened because our politicians failed to fight for the Sonics fans.
Mitch also never came out and said "let them go". But what he did say was "I have a bad feeling about this". Obviously, Mitch was far more objective about the City of Seattle's case.
2. I don't know if it's at all true, but Ian Furness said that KIRO is going to be mostly ESPN with very little local coverage.
As far as current KJR hosts, Clayton is the best by a long shot. I also like Groz & Furness. The others are a joke. I emailed Rich Moore (I think I got that right??) when Locke left asking if they would give the spot to Frank. Obviously, they didn't.
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